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2005年11月，伊拉克西部城市哈迪塞（Haditha）。两名伊拉克武装分子在路中央埋下自制的炸弹，炸毁途经此地的美军陆战队的汽车，一等兵米格尔•特拉泽斯在爆炸中身亡。此举激怒了陆战队的士兵，他们迅速对周边的伊拉克平民进行报复性的袭击，包括孩童在内共计24人遇害，此举震惊世界。 本片根据真实事件改编。
长篇影评
1 ) 逼真程度尤如電視直播現場畫面
根據真實事件拍成的《Battle for Haditha》（酷戰紀事），2005年11月19日伊拉克Haditha地方兩個恐怖份子在路邊埋土製炸彈，美國海軍陸戰隊一人被炸死一人受傷。同行美軍即時報復，追不到放炸彈的人，卻濫殺了24個手無寸鐵的無辜老百姓，男女老幼皆有。
現場有當地人拍下錄像，訪問了生還者，後來寄給美國《TIME》，周刊把事情曝光，惹起國際關注。英國導演Nick Broomfield於是拉隊到伊拉克，把過程重演一次，拍成電影，讓世人多點了解美國軍隊在今天伊拉克做了些甚麼事。上網看看此位導演的資料，才知道他不簡單，他多拍紀錄片式電影引發話題，例如連環女殺手；中國少女屈蛇去英國等等的故事。
《Haditha》這部電影叫人聯想起1968年3月16日美軍在越南廣南省美萊村（My Lai）那場大屠殺，一隊美軍為了打越共游擊隊，不分青紅皂白殺死128個平民。過去30年來由大明星演出的越戰電影，除了《現代啟示錄》等少數兩、三部外，根本無法跟今天的伊拉克戰爭片相比。今天導演如果拍伊拉克，多本著良心而放棄商業目的，立場會比較客觀、中立，更重要是掌握拍攝技術（今天攝影器材和膠卷進步很多，操作員可以用身體負起整部攝影機、自由走動來拍攝動作場面，因此可以無需剪接而準確紀錄整個過程），令現場感和逼真度大幅提高，接近電視現場轉播的程度。
Broomfield現在似乎達到這個地步。至低限度，此片畫面上呈現的伊拉克現場和氣氛，令人感覺真實，而所有出鏡演員（無論是主要演員、配角、甚至是只出鏡一秒鐘的臨時演員），個個都似是海軍陸戰隊成員和當地平民，很能表現出當時當地生活的氣氛、心情和環境。他拍攝美軍殺人報復的那段過程，其逼真程度尤如電視直播現場畫面，令人嘆為觀止，不自禁看到投入、肉緊萬分。
真不知道這位英國導演怎樣拍攝，難道當地美軍和伊拉克人會支持這位英國導演把事件重演一次？如果美軍和當地人不協助的話，那麼這位英國導演能拍出這樣逼真的電影便更了不起。
這部電影描畫出殺人者的內心世界，他幾晚失眠，想看心理醫生但不果，終於變得瘋狂，做出滅絕人性的事來。影片說他（們）也是受害者，是被高層將領逼到他（們）做出自己也不想做的事情來。
這部揭露George Bush總統瘡疤的電影在電影院公映的機會很微。我有幸在香港大會堂看到它，而錯過了在電影節觀看的觀眾，惟有到深圳尋找它的錄像好了。另外一提，08年3月有退役和現役軍人在馬利蘭州出席《冬天的士兵》聽證會，各人自述在伊拉克親眼目睹的美軍暴行。主流傳媒不會報導這些消息，大家上網會找到跟電影所揭露相近的惡行。（完）
現場有當地人拍下錄像，訪問了生還者，後來寄給美國《TIME》，周刊把事情曝光，惹起國際關注。英國導演Nick Broomfield於是拉隊到伊拉克，把過程重演一次，拍成電影，讓世人多點了解美國軍隊在今天伊拉克做了些甚麼事。上網看看此位導演的資料，才知道他不簡單，他多拍紀錄片式電影引發話題，例如連環女殺手；中國少女屈蛇去英國等等的故事。
《Haditha》這部電影叫人聯想起1968年3月16日美軍在越南廣南省美萊村（My Lai）那場大屠殺，一隊美軍為了打越共游擊隊，不分青紅皂白殺死128個平民。過去30年來由大明星演出的越戰電影，除了《現代啟示錄》等少數兩、三部外，根本無法跟今天的伊拉克戰爭片相比。今天導演如果拍伊拉克，多本著良心而放棄商業目的，立場會比較客觀、中立，更重要是掌握拍攝技術（今天攝影器材和膠卷進步很多，操作員可以用身體負起整部攝影機、自由走動來拍攝動作場面，因此可以無需剪接而準確紀錄整個過程），令現場感和逼真度大幅提高，接近電視現場轉播的程度。
Broomfield現在似乎達到這個地步。至低限度，此片畫面上呈現的伊拉克現場和氣氛，令人感覺真實，而所有出鏡演員（無論是主要演員、配角、甚至是只出鏡一秒鐘的臨時演員），個個都似是海軍陸戰隊成員和當地平民，很能表現出當時當地生活的氣氛、心情和環境。他拍攝美軍殺人報復的那段過程，其逼真程度尤如電視直播現場畫面，令人嘆為觀止，不自禁看到投入、肉緊萬分。
真不知道這位英國導演怎樣拍攝，難道當地美軍和伊拉克人會支持這位英國導演把事件重演一次？如果美軍和當地人不協助的話，那麼這位英國導演能拍出這樣逼真的電影便更了不起。
這部電影描畫出殺人者的內心世界，他幾晚失眠，想看心理醫生但不果，終於變得瘋狂，做出滅絕人性的事來。影片說他（們）也是受害者，是被高層將領逼到他（們）做出自己也不想做的事情來。
這部揭露George Bush總統瘡疤的電影在電影院公映的機會很微。我有幸在香港大會堂看到它，而錯過了在電影節觀看的觀眾，惟有到深圳尋找它的錄像好了。另外一提，08年3月有退役和現役軍人在馬利蘭州出席《冬天的士兵》聽證會，各人自述在伊拉克親眼目睹的美軍暴行。主流傳媒不會報導這些消息，大家上網會找到跟電影所揭露相近的惡行。（完）
2 ) 愤怒的杀戮
2022.01.17
路边炸弹爆炸，把美军士兵炸的血肉模糊，这让其他美军异常愤怒，失去理智而大开杀戒、滥杀无辜，美军泄愤的做法固然可恶而不可饶恕，反过来说看到有人在路边埋炸弹也知道危险降临，除了报告村长，劝说已经怀孕的媳妇去亲戚家避风头，大难临头居然再无作为，领着老老少少一大家子人等死。发现妻子不见了，冲动的跑出去大呼小叫，引来美军当活靶子射杀，更是愚蠢至极。伊拉克男人咋那么木讷？是相信美军是仁义之师，不会滥杀无辜？那可就是上吊拴脚脖子，记错地方了。
路边炸弹爆炸后，不远处一辆白色轿车里面五个男人居然一动不动的呆在车里，一副看热闹不嫌事大的劲头，可能还庆幸选了个第一排，岂不知屎壳郎拴在鞭梢上，光知道腾云驾雾，不知道死在眼前。疯狂的美军像抓小鸡一样把他们从车里拎出来一个个的毙了，成了的替罪羊。伊拉克男人真的很愚钝。至于火上浇油在自家院子里向美军胡乱开枪射击就更是引火烧身的脑残行为。可怜之人必有可恨之处。
3 ) 哈迪萨事件的英文wiki资料以及IMDB影评
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_for_Haditha
Battle for Haditha (film)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haditha_killings
Haditha killings
google translate
http://translate.google.com.hk/?hl=zh-TW&tab=wT
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0870211/reviews
影评
65 out of 83 people found the following review useful:
Powerful & Provocative Film, 12 November 2007
8/10
Author: Black Narcissus from Maida Vale, UK
I saw this film at it's London premiere at the Odeon West End as part of the London Film Festival.
I guess Nick Broomfield was getting sick & tired of seeing Michael Moore ripping off his Documentary style so made this his Second feature film in as many years. Like the earlier film, Ghosts (www.imdb.com/title/tt0872202/), the Battle for Haditha is based on fact.
The film tells story of the events of November 19, 2005, when a troop of US Marines exact revenge for an earlier attack which killed one of their number in the Iraqi town of Haditha.
The Film focuses on three different viewpoints, the first of Iraqi insurgents, which in this case isn't some mad Mullah but an old man, who we learn is an ex-Army officer and his son. The second focuses on a Corporal Ruiz, a young Marine who you feel wants to be anywhere but Iraqi and the finally the film focuses on a young Iraqi couple and their extended family.
The film is shot Cinéma-vérité style and at times is very harrowing. But it's to Broomfields credit that he to my mind he doesn't simply demonize the US soldiers. Instead you get to understand how young men put in a situation that you the viewer couldn't understand let alone cope with, could just lose it after a comrade is killed. Likewise, in the films portrayal of the insurgent fighters Broomfield manages to make you think what would you do, if, as in the film, your a professional soldier made jobless by a an Occupying force. How do you feed your family, and wouldn't you feel some resentment to the occupation forces for making you jobless. But it's in the Iraqi families, caught between the US forces and the Insurgents that the film is at it's best. They can't do the right thing for doing wrong. It is they who bear the brunt of either Insurgency retaliation or US Forces heavy-handedness. They who ultimately will and are the losers in Film.
This is a powerful film which deals with all aspects of the problem fair mindedly, but doesn't shy away from the truth. Don't let those who haven't watched the film put you off seeing the best portrayal of the War on Terror to date.
Black Narcissus
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71 out of 95 people found the following review useful:
Made me cry., 21 March 2008
9/10
Author: bluelionk
Made me cry.
Only issues I noticed are: That the translation of the spoken Arabic is sometimes misleading and has no relation with what they actually said.
Some of the actors' accents are not Iraqi (Palestian, Egyptian, and others...), but most are Iraqis.
It's still a great movie that shows what happens in Iraq, and that war is ugly.
It's one of the rare movies that show the issue from the other side.
The acting is great, so is the scenery (it does look a lot like Iraq).
I say it again, it made me cry, a lot.
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48 out of 75 people found the following review useful:
If You Liked Bloody Sunday & United 93, 19 September 2007
9/10
Author: Movie-Jay from Toronto, Canada
I just saw this movie at the Toronto Film Festival, and it's going to create much controversy as the weeks pass until this film finally opens. I think those who are against a movie before they even see it are saying something about themselves, not the film. Watch it, and then make up your mind. This movie, like United 93 or Bloody Sunday, is told moment to moment, keeps it's head down and just moves forward without judgment or commentary. The movie isn't aware of the past or future, it only knows what it knows through the characters we follow, some of whom are American soldiers, some are innocent Iraqi families, others are terrorists. This movie does a wise thing by simply showing things from all points of view. I can't wait until it's released because it needs to be talked about.
At the premiere for the film, we learn that many of the actors on the American front are actually soldiers who fought in Iraq. The head of the platoon is especially good, and could go on and have a career as an actor.
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30 out of 41 people found the following review useful:
A story that needed to be told, 13 August 2008
8/10
Author: insomnia from Australia
It's almost impossible to be totally objective regarding a subject about which one is truly passionate. The war in Iraq is a subject that divides people like no other in recent times. As with any conflict, the war in Iraq has its supporters and its detractors. There is no middle ground. There are no grey areas: everything is just black or white. Either you believe it's a justifiable war, or you don't. This brings me to Nick Broomfield's new film, "The Battle For Haditha". The subject of the film is controversial as it deals with an incident in the city of Haditha, allegedly involving the US Marines. Broomfield uses actors, some of whom are former US Marines and Iraq veterans, as well as Iraqi refugees, to fashion a film that successfully straddles the gap between a regular documentary and a straightforward feature film. The film encompasses three points of view: those of the Marines, the insurgents, and the families who lived near where the roadside bomb detonated. This film is a fictionalised account of what actually happened at Haditha. It shows quite graphically, the horrors of war and what the Americans as well as innocent Iraqis have to go through almost on a daily basis. There are deaths on both sides, but it's Iraqi civilians who are caught in the crossfire and who have to bear the brunt of dealing with men who have been stretched to breaking point. The film in no way condones the actions of either the insurgents or the Marines. It just shows the audience what might have occurred on that fateful day, and it's for those in the audience to make up their own minds as to who was in the right and who was in the wrong. When reading some of the comments posted on the message board for this film, I find it somewhat puzzling that some contributors write that "Battle For Haditha" is anti-American. Just because the US Marines are shown in a less than sympathetic light in this film, does not mean the film is on the side of the insurgents. What the film does demonstrate is how quickly things can get out of hand, in a situation such as that in Haditha. By all means criticize a film on its merits, or lack of them. Please, though, do not label this film as un-American just because it doesn't fit a blinkered view of the way the world is.
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26 out of 39 people found the following review useful:
better than i expected, 1 April 2008
8/10
Author: SEVEREcritic from Bangladesh
i personally never heard of Mr. Bloomfield, so i had no real intention of watching this film till i saw it mentioned in the message boards for other films. that said, i must say this was the best in the recent slew of Iraq war films (like Redacted, Home of the Brave, etc.) i half expected it to be like Redacted and was pleasantly surprised to find it much better. i think it really brought out the fact that there are multiple sides to a story, and did so without too much bias. being a Muslim myself i must admit that it seemed a little inclined towards Iraqis, with Marines portrayed as undisciplined and emotionless (though one of the protagonists feels guilt and in reality this incident caused an uproar). there are no A-list actors, which in a sense, actually made the movie better because you almost see the actors as the characters themselves (especially since a lot of the dialog is improvised). i think it was well made, and well thought out. better than expected. i wonder what the US reaction would if/when it has a release there? unlike Moore's work (as stated by another user here) neither party is shown as completely innocent or completely evil. i'm not sure if this is exactly how the incident took place, but if it is, then there is certainly some food for thought in this movie.
Battle for Haditha (film)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haditha_killings
Haditha killings
google translate
http://translate.google.com.hk/?hl=zh-TW&tab=wT
-------------------------------
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0870211/reviews
影评
65 out of 83 people found the following review useful:
Powerful & Provocative Film, 12 November 2007
8/10
Author: Black Narcissus from Maida Vale, UK
I saw this film at it's London premiere at the Odeon West End as part of the London Film Festival.
I guess Nick Broomfield was getting sick & tired of seeing Michael Moore ripping off his Documentary style so made this his Second feature film in as many years. Like the earlier film, Ghosts (www.imdb.com/title/tt0872202/), the Battle for Haditha is based on fact.
The film tells story of the events of November 19, 2005, when a troop of US Marines exact revenge for an earlier attack which killed one of their number in the Iraqi town of Haditha.
The Film focuses on three different viewpoints, the first of Iraqi insurgents, which in this case isn't some mad Mullah but an old man, who we learn is an ex-Army officer and his son. The second focuses on a Corporal Ruiz, a young Marine who you feel wants to be anywhere but Iraqi and the finally the film focuses on a young Iraqi couple and their extended family.
The film is shot Cinéma-vérité style and at times is very harrowing. But it's to Broomfields credit that he to my mind he doesn't simply demonize the US soldiers. Instead you get to understand how young men put in a situation that you the viewer couldn't understand let alone cope with, could just lose it after a comrade is killed. Likewise, in the films portrayal of the insurgent fighters Broomfield manages to make you think what would you do, if, as in the film, your a professional soldier made jobless by a an Occupying force. How do you feed your family, and wouldn't you feel some resentment to the occupation forces for making you jobless. But it's in the Iraqi families, caught between the US forces and the Insurgents that the film is at it's best. They can't do the right thing for doing wrong. It is they who bear the brunt of either Insurgency retaliation or US Forces heavy-handedness. They who ultimately will and are the losers in Film.
This is a powerful film which deals with all aspects of the problem fair mindedly, but doesn't shy away from the truth. Don't let those who haven't watched the film put you off seeing the best portrayal of the War on Terror to date.
Black Narcissus
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71 out of 95 people found the following review useful:
Made me cry., 21 March 2008
9/10
Author: bluelionk
Made me cry.
Only issues I noticed are: That the translation of the spoken Arabic is sometimes misleading and has no relation with what they actually said.
Some of the actors' accents are not Iraqi (Palestian, Egyptian, and others...), but most are Iraqis.
It's still a great movie that shows what happens in Iraq, and that war is ugly.
It's one of the rare movies that show the issue from the other side.
The acting is great, so is the scenery (it does look a lot like Iraq).
I say it again, it made me cry, a lot.
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48 out of 75 people found the following review useful:
If You Liked Bloody Sunday & United 93, 19 September 2007
9/10
Author: Movie-Jay from Toronto, Canada
I just saw this movie at the Toronto Film Festival, and it's going to create much controversy as the weeks pass until this film finally opens. I think those who are against a movie before they even see it are saying something about themselves, not the film. Watch it, and then make up your mind. This movie, like United 93 or Bloody Sunday, is told moment to moment, keeps it's head down and just moves forward without judgment or commentary. The movie isn't aware of the past or future, it only knows what it knows through the characters we follow, some of whom are American soldiers, some are innocent Iraqi families, others are terrorists. This movie does a wise thing by simply showing things from all points of view. I can't wait until it's released because it needs to be talked about.
At the premiere for the film, we learn that many of the actors on the American front are actually soldiers who fought in Iraq. The head of the platoon is especially good, and could go on and have a career as an actor.
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30 out of 41 people found the following review useful:
A story that needed to be told, 13 August 2008
8/10
Author: insomnia from Australia
It's almost impossible to be totally objective regarding a subject about which one is truly passionate. The war in Iraq is a subject that divides people like no other in recent times. As with any conflict, the war in Iraq has its supporters and its detractors. There is no middle ground. There are no grey areas: everything is just black or white. Either you believe it's a justifiable war, or you don't. This brings me to Nick Broomfield's new film, "The Battle For Haditha". The subject of the film is controversial as it deals with an incident in the city of Haditha, allegedly involving the US Marines. Broomfield uses actors, some of whom are former US Marines and Iraq veterans, as well as Iraqi refugees, to fashion a film that successfully straddles the gap between a regular documentary and a straightforward feature film. The film encompasses three points of view: those of the Marines, the insurgents, and the families who lived near where the roadside bomb detonated. This film is a fictionalised account of what actually happened at Haditha. It shows quite graphically, the horrors of war and what the Americans as well as innocent Iraqis have to go through almost on a daily basis. There are deaths on both sides, but it's Iraqi civilians who are caught in the crossfire and who have to bear the brunt of dealing with men who have been stretched to breaking point. The film in no way condones the actions of either the insurgents or the Marines. It just shows the audience what might have occurred on that fateful day, and it's for those in the audience to make up their own minds as to who was in the right and who was in the wrong. When reading some of the comments posted on the message board for this film, I find it somewhat puzzling that some contributors write that "Battle For Haditha" is anti-American. Just because the US Marines are shown in a less than sympathetic light in this film, does not mean the film is on the side of the insurgents. What the film does demonstrate is how quickly things can get out of hand, in a situation such as that in Haditha. By all means criticize a film on its merits, or lack of them. Please, though, do not label this film as un-American just because it doesn't fit a blinkered view of the way the world is.
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26 out of 39 people found the following review useful:
better than i expected, 1 April 2008
8/10
Author: SEVEREcritic from Bangladesh
i personally never heard of Mr. Bloomfield, so i had no real intention of watching this film till i saw it mentioned in the message boards for other films. that said, i must say this was the best in the recent slew of Iraq war films (like Redacted, Home of the Brave, etc.) i half expected it to be like Redacted and was pleasantly surprised to find it much better. i think it really brought out the fact that there are multiple sides to a story, and did so without too much bias. being a Muslim myself i must admit that it seemed a little inclined towards Iraqis, with Marines portrayed as undisciplined and emotionless (though one of the protagonists feels guilt and in reality this incident caused an uproar). there are no A-list actors, which in a sense, actually made the movie better because you almost see the actors as the characters themselves (especially since a lot of the dialog is improvised). i think it was well made, and well thought out. better than expected. i wonder what the US reaction would if/when it has a release there? unlike Moore's work (as stated by another user here) neither party is shown as completely innocent or completely evil. i'm not sure if this is exactly how the incident took place, but if it is, then there is certainly some food for thought in this movie.
4 ) 反思
美国一向自诩正义，但是对于面对其中明显不正义的片段，敢于反思才会让人心悦诚服，敢于反思的国家才会进步，本片据真实故事改编，基本能客观反映那一段故事而几乎未带或者很少带倾向性。对比军国主义时代日本无所不能且掩盖一切的军部，今日这全世界最强力国家的最强力部门也无法阻止国内民众的反战或者反思。
5 ) 鹬蚌相争，渔翁得利！
看完这部13年前的电影发表一下我个人的看法。 第一:从美国人角度上来说，一群被恐怖分子激怒了的美军冲上民宅肆意杀戮平民，显示出在那些镜头里风光的美军作战素养之差和心理素质是多么的不堪一击！从美军平均20岁的年龄来看，他们都是群心智还未成熟的小伙子。只经过正常的教官训教但是还未经过实战磨炼就上战场，看到一个队友被杀就沉不住气想要报仇雪恨，见人就杀。这反映出了美军基层士兵的普遍不遵守纪律和心理素质较差。也从大量下了战场就容易得精神疾病的数据就可以看出美军基层士兵真正软弱的地方。当然，也侧面反映了美军士兵要是没有强大的武器和科技，这种士兵很难有所作为，要不上战场就不听指挥个人英雄主义严重，要不打完子弹或者被包围没有空中支援和后援就会崩溃投降。 第二:从恐怖分子的角度上来说无疑这样做是很成功的。用最低的成本就可以激怒美国大兵。然后利用美军杀戮平民既能在国际舆论上打击美国人，又能利用伊拉克民众对美国人仇恨的种子壮大自己的实力。可谓一箭三雕！站在恐怖分子的角度来说十分完美！
第三:从伊拉克被屠杀的平民角度分析，我觉得这群人活该！虽然这样说很不人道。但是，事实就是这群没有战争观念的平民百姓，明明看到了有人在路边埋炸弹，却装作什么都不知道。就像鲁迅先生骂自己国人那样，——麻木不仁！是的，你可以选择给美国人告发也可以选择收拾东西逃跑。但是他们偏偏装作什么都不知道。既不想得罪美国人也害怕恐怖分子报复！这样的不作为最终害了自己，害了家人。成了恐怖分子的利用工具。对于这种没有明显战争观念，自己的国家被外族占领，他们还在慢悠悠过日子的民族和平民，我是真的没有一丝同情。他们的麻木不仁，自私自利，也注定了他们需要付出生命的代价！
再说个题外话，看完这部电影其实我想的不是美国人是多么的“虚伪”，伊拉克人是多么的"可怜"。我唯一想到的就是，鹬蚌相争，渔翁得利！正是因为伊拉克战争的泥潭拖住了美国人，才有了中国发展的10年黄金期。中国应该感谢伊拉克这群恐怖分子和广大人民的牺牲，为自己争得了这宝贵的战略发展期。现在正逢中美科技战贸易战，美国已经腾出了手开始和中国全面对抗了！中国应该冷静分析，总结教训，如果未来哪天中美爆发热战，中国应该多多利用美军基层士兵的软弱心理和作战素养的差劲来痛击美军！当然，美军也有王牌部队。我们一定要提前研究美军，除了研究他们的武器装备和信息化作战体系外。我们更应该研究"心理战"！
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最后谈谈这部电影，我觉得这部电影用纪录片的形式叙述这件惨案过于冗长。导演用了几乎1/2的时间交代背景。最后的重头戏，战争场面镜头才区区10来分钟，既没有渲染出战争的残酷，又让人看的很平淡无聊。我基本上是快进往过看的。要不是真实故事改编，这电影拍的也确实够"无趣"。
6 ) 以血还血，以牙还牙
an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth; tit for tat
——《圣经》
关于911已经有太多的声音说了太多的话
在这里我这个浅薄的孩子就不再罗嗦什么
我只是想说大家都在一个地球都一样是人
为什么总要流血总要有杀戮？
因为曾经的血人们互相仇视就要再让彼此继续流血？用新的血来冲刷已经干涸的血渍？
难道和平就那么轻？
难道仇恨就这么重？
——转自西祠·蓝羽飘落
<battle for haditha>是我最近看到的一部关于伊战的电影，看完后心中一片落寞。或许还有些暗自的窃喜，庆幸生活在一个没有战争，且远离战争的国度。
我震撼于片中关于战争原罪的交谈
也提醒我们，这场战争已经持续了整整5年，并且在可以预见的未来还会持续下去，还有有更多的此类事件发生在遥远的伊拉克。
比较国内的报道，美国的独立制片人简直可以以“神”来形容了。没有他们，我们用什么来了解这场战争中真实发生、正在发生的真相。
the truth，看来不光是我们这些旁观者在追求的，恐怕当事人也在苦苦追求。
战争让活人变成魔鬼。几乎是瞬间的，以牙还牙，以血还血，一切都发生的那么自然，宛如一场春梦。太快了，你简直来不及去想他是否正确。他就是那么发生了，瞬间的屠杀，一具具无辜者的尸体，谁来辨别对或错，正义与公平.......
以牙还牙，以血还血......
片尾的情节，我一直觉得，充满了讽刺的意味。
——《圣经》
关于911已经有太多的声音说了太多的话
在这里我这个浅薄的孩子就不再罗嗦什么
我只是想说大家都在一个地球都一样是人
为什么总要流血总要有杀戮？
因为曾经的血人们互相仇视就要再让彼此继续流血？用新的血来冲刷已经干涸的血渍？
难道和平就那么轻？
难道仇恨就这么重？
——转自西祠·蓝羽飘落
<battle for haditha>是我最近看到的一部关于伊战的电影，看完后心中一片落寞。或许还有些暗自的窃喜，庆幸生活在一个没有战争，且远离战争的国度。
我震撼于片中关于战争原罪的交谈
也提醒我们，这场战争已经持续了整整5年，并且在可以预见的未来还会持续下去，还有有更多的此类事件发生在遥远的伊拉克。
比较国内的报道，美国的独立制片人简直可以以“神”来形容了。没有他们，我们用什么来了解这场战争中真实发生、正在发生的真相。
the truth，看来不光是我们这些旁观者在追求的，恐怕当事人也在苦苦追求。
战争让活人变成魔鬼。几乎是瞬间的，以牙还牙，以血还血，一切都发生的那么自然，宛如一场春梦。太快了，你简直来不及去想他是否正确。他就是那么发生了，瞬间的屠杀，一具具无辜者的尸体，谁来辨别对或错，正义与公平.......
以牙还牙，以血还血......
片尾的情节，我一直觉得，充满了讽刺的意味。
好的战争片，最终表达的应该都是反战的。这部电影更像是一种还原，对真相的重新演绎，对战争的重新反馈，对平民的重新伤害。战争中受害最深的永远是陷入深渊的无法找到出路的平民。这个村子的人，在看到所谓的恐怖分子埋炸弹时，不敢告诉美国人，因为如果被叛军发现，注定是死。但不告诉美国人，就发生了影片中的担忧，他们作为最无辜的人被失去理智疯狂报复的美国人击杀。无法博弈，在这场战争中没有任何逃命空间。而恐怖分子是，真正的叛军雇来的市民，他们对两边都是无所谓的状态，都讨厌，却会为钱卖命。事实就是这样，人执行命令，人受到伤害，人疯狂报复，人无辜被杀。政治，社会，意识，就这样混乱。而这一切，还是乱入的战争。
就这片子还能看出反战意味来？还有说士兵和平民都无辜的，圣母这个词转为你造的，真是佩服。从战略上讲这tm是洗衣粉战争，是侵略战争，从战术上讲这是对手无寸铁的平民单方面的屠杀，跟主反省两句，流下两滴鳄鱼的眼泪，象征性的被追究下责任，就洗清罪恶了？拍个电影都要拿反战当遮羞布，美国佬最近打脸已经打出新高度了，你把他以前说的话说一遍都相当于在骂他。
过于的追求技术上的真实与视角的全面，反而显得缺乏真实，而流于表面。
伪纪录片形式。真实感强烈。美军高层和伊拉克武装分子们虚伪的打着各自的幌子而让他们的同胞——前线的美国大兵和伊拉克平民成为无辜受害者。漫漫长夜你们何以安心入睡？
老百姓从媒体、教科书上看到的是什么？是事件。是媒体甚至政府想告诉你的事件，是不是真相？真不知道。运气好的话，过一阵或者过几十年，水干了，露出一些河底的真相，运气不好，观众永远做傻子。你以为朝鲜人的智商很低，整天为金正恩哭天抢地？他们只是国家教育下的傻子，我们若在那个地方，也一样。
战争就是这样一个人性的黑洞，它逼迫你放弃代价高昂的准则，以换取失去了意义的胜利。
想起了南京大屠杀，全世界人民都应该看清美国的嘴脸
也算是比较中性的角度，对伊拉克的普通人、极端主义者，对美国陆战队的士兵、将军。尽管不能得到所有的全面的comment，这种多角度考虑的尝试总是有利于世界和平滴，卡卡
以后下完电影一定要先过一遍看字幕完整不完整，我下的这个版本大概50分钟左右就没有字幕了，幸好战争题材台词成分比较少，还是能看明白个大概，我挺喜欢这种强调纪实性的电影，没有过分英雄化任何人，真实的揭示了战争给人们带来的灾难，有反思，有警示，你不杀人，人就会杀你，就这么简单。
无解的悲剧，每个人都身处其中，都觉得自己的是无辜的。事实却是别人利益博弈的棋子，既是受害者也是施暴者，没有人是无辜的。
这两帮人天天都要把人脑打出猪脑才算完，却还要生活在同一个城市中，伊拉克到底是一个怎样的国家啊。
279 常看到很多人自豪的说，没当过兵的男人不是真男人，或许从动物本能天性来说确实如此。美利坚海军陆战队算是世界上最牛皮哄哄的兵了吧，是男人就下一百层，地狱
真实事件改编，借用伪纪录片风格、去类型化地还原了美军在伊拉克的治安战困境，更具象的体现了家园置身于战火的悲剧，极尽冷峻纪实，让观众看到了是非对错一定程度上处于模糊地带的真实战场，美军和恐怖分子相互地袭击、报复、仇杀，结果付出最惨重代价地却是被无辜裹挟其间的普通人：平民看到恐怖分子埋炸弹却不敢报信给美军，因为怕恐怖分子报复，但攻击一旦成功，他们就像片中那样被失去理智的美国大兵无差别的杀戮，连老幼妇孺都不放过，他们唯一错的就是自己的国家成为了战场，没有任何逃生的出口，甚至连搞恐怖袭击的都不过是极端分子花钱雇来执行任务的主儿。而美军士兵杀人没得洗，但他们也不过是帝国掌权者谋取政治经济利益的工具，敌意像螺旋一样上升，真正的刽子手坐收渔利，战场的真相任强者涂抹，真正的元凶，却从头到尾都没露面。
伊拉克哈迪塞镇，I.D.E工厂..IDE使陆战队车队一死二伤，失去兄弟的MC疯狂了，接下的搜索任务中15名伊拉克平民无辜死去。被幕后黑手煽动的伊拉人纷纷拿起步枪，造成平民死亡的陆战队员们也面临审讯...这场战争到底谁错了？值观？宗教信仰？谁最无辜？伊拉克人民？士兵？当权者之间的矛盾导致了这些悲剧
这片让我想起《鬼子来了》。当年抗战时，民众真的像宣传的那样很支持游击队打仗吗？小老百姓只想活着罢了。顺便吐槽一下短评顶最高的一条，平民不一定无辜，高官不一定冷血，而冲在前面的也不一定都是被洗脑的傻逼。
美军禽兽不如
仇恨滋生仇恨，冤冤相报何时了？战争是泯灭人性的苦难，不义的战争是苦难的巅峰。交战双方那些为了个人利益不顾他人死活操纵民众、士兵的政客和煽动者是最可恶最该死的！拍得很真实很震撼！给战争下了一个绝佳的定义
对比1999年的《夺金三王》，2007年的《哈迪赛之战》。前者是部喜剧片，对萨达姆军队的贪婪残暴戏谑调侃，伊拉克百姓喜迎天兵。后者是部严肃纪实的电影，突出了美军的残暴猖狂，伊拉克人对美军充满敌意，游击队对美军不停的袭扰让其精神崩溃。拍这部电影的时候还在调查阶段，直到2012年参与屠杀的美军只有一人被判九十天监禁(没执行)，其他人无罪，伊拉克部分死者每人陪了两千五百美元，有敌意的死者未获赔偿。
其实就感情而言十分理解美军在战争中犯下的错，还算不上罪行。毕竟战争本身就是残酷的，会将人逼疯。身处在其中也多身不由己，把问题拿出来大家一起解决而不是隐藏才是解决问题方法。
阿拉伯人的命就比美国人贱吗？路边炸弹这么多是阿拉伯平民造成的吗？那些滥杀无辜的美国陆战队员有错吗？复仇复仇，杀戮杀戮，这样的恶性循环，错在何人、何处？